La Joux Perret Ljp Caliber G100

La Joux-Perret Caliber LJP-G100

La Joux Perret Ljp Caliber G100

Manufacturer Manufacture la Joux-Perret S.A. (MLJP)
Caliber Number LJP-G100
Type Automatic, self-winding mechanical
Lignes 11.5”’
Diameter
25.6mm
Casing Diameter
26mm
Height
4.45mm thick
Jewels
24
Vibrations Per Hour
28,800 bph (4Hz)
Lift Angle
51 degrees
Amplitude Range
200-315 degrees
Power Reserve
68 hours
Anti-Shock Device
KIF
Rotor Style
Ball bearing
Rotor Direction
Clockwise (uni-directional)
Hacking Seconds?
Yes
Hand-Windable?
Yes
Hand Count
3
Functions Central hours; central minutes; central sweeping seconds; date at 3:00
Country of Manufacture Switzerland, Swiss made
Known Models
Zelos Spearfish Diver, Anordain Model 1 Medium/Large, Furlan Marri Sector (ref: Salmon 2154-A, White 2161-A, Gray 2145-A) (Add your watch to the comments below…)

The La Joux-Perret caliber LJP-G100 is a Swiss made automatic 3-hander movement with 24 jewels, beating at 28,800 vph.

Tungten Rotor:

The G100 rotor is ball-bearing style with 3 screws holding it in place (similar to the Miyota 9 series). It is made from solid tungsten. Tungsten is the heaviest naturally occurring metal (source), which is likely where the 3 screw design comes into play.

Furlan Marri, a watch brand that lists the G100 (actually a no-date calibre G101?) as powering their Sector line of automatic watches says this about the rotor:

“… a full tungsten rotor with palladium coating ensures smooth rotation and weight distribution.” –source

Ljp G100 No Date Furlan Marri Movement

ETA Clone

Is the G100 a clone of the 2824-2?

No, the G100 is NOT an ETA 2824-2 clone.

2824-2 Replacement?

Although not an exact clone of the ETA 2824-2, the LJP (or MLJP) G100 is pitched as a direct replacement option for the 2824-2 or SW200-1 due to sharing similar dimensions. In fact, LJP goes as far as stating that the G100 s 100% compatible with the 2824-2 (source).

In MLJP’s own words:

“In this, very special year 2020, MLJP’s two standards – the G100 and L100 movements – have been revised. The products just launched by La Joux-Perret are not only more cost-effective, but also feature an increased power reserve. MLJP responds to existing market needs in a coherent manner with its latest developments.” –source

Miyota 9015 Clone?

As mentioned above, the G100 is not an ETA clone – however, it is more like a Swiss made Miyota 9015 clone with 2824-2 dimensions. It should be noted that 9015 and 2824 are both 11.5”’, but the 9015 is slightly slimmer at 3.9mm vs 4.6mm. Perhaps this is the reason the G100 comes in slightly slimmer than the 2824-2 (at least on paper).

La Joux Perret Ljp G100 Vs Miyota 9015

Other similarities between the 9015 and G100 are: both have a jewel count of 24, both have the same 3 screw ball-bearing rotor design, both appear to have a very similar design overall.

Differences include the Miyota using Citizen’s Paraflex anti-shock and the G100 using the Swiss made KIF device. The G100 has a screw style fine tuning device on the regulator, the 9015 does not. The 9015 has a power reserve of 42 hours, the G100 offers 68 hours of running time. Accuracy of the Miyota 9015 averages at -10 to +30 seconds per day compared to the lowest grade of G100 at +/-12 sec/day (see below).

What MLJP says about 2824-2 compatibility:

“The G100 automatic movement has been entirely developed to meet tomorrow’s standards. With a diameter of 25.6 mm, it aims to be traditional and aligned with the most common size in mechanical watchmaking, this guaranteeing a total compatibility with the casings of the 2824, the best selling Swiss movement in the world.” -source

When reading this quote from MLJP’s marketing materials, keep in mind that there is more to caliber compatibility than the overall diameter of the movement. Other factors to take into consideration are the overall height of the movement, the position of the stem and whether or not it will match the placement of the casetube, and dial feel locations. While they didn’t go deep enough into technicalities with the statement above, hopefully their compatibility guarantee also covers those specs.

Note: despite the word “compatible” being thrown around to market this movement, that does not entail parts compatibility.

G100 VS 2824-2:

The main difference performance-wise that MLJP touts about their G100 compared to the ETA 2824-2 is an increase in power reserve.

“Its new power reserve of 68 hours, 80% more than the 2824 or the SW-200, as well as its high-end decorations and complications give this new movement clear advantages.” –source

Thickness may be another difference between the two movements: ETA (and Sellita) tech sheets stats the thickness of the 2824-2 is 4.6mm, whereas MLJP says the thickness of the G100 is 4.45mm. Other differences are that the 2824-2 has 25 jewels and the G100 has 24 (the Sellita SW200-1 has 26).

La Joux Perret Ljp G100 Vs Eta 2824 2

Grades of G100:

Similar to how ETA and Sellita offer different grades of movement based on finish, testing and accuracy, MLJP also offers multiple grades. When contrasting low and high grade options, the G100 is available in Standard grade or Soigne. Soigne is the label given to their highest grade.

Accuracy Rating:

Using the aforementioned grades to compare accuracy, MLJP claims that the accuracy of the G100 Standard version is tested in 3 positions with timekeeping averaging out to +/-12 seconds per day with a maximum deviation of 30 seconds per day. The higher grade version is tested in 4 positions and times out to an average of +/-7 seconds per day with a max deviation of 20 sec/day.

Replacement Prices:

At the time of this post, Caliber Corner was unable to find USA based watch parts suppliers with the G100 for sale, therefore a confirmed retail price is unavailable. There is a Switzerland based seller on eBay with a new G100 for sale priced at $295 USD. If this is any indication of actual pricing from the manufacturer, then it is not priced competitively against the SW200-1, although it may be worth it for your project if you desire the ability to offer a longer power reserve.

With the comparison made to the 9015 above, maybe it is better to approach this as Swiss version of the 9015 rather than a replacement for the 2824-2. If so, then you have to ask yourself if the price difference is worth it.

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About Manufacture la Joux-Perret:

MLJP is based in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. It is owned by Citizen Watch Group (Japan) as of April 2012 via acquisition of Prothor Holding SA.

Pros & Cons:

Pros:

  • Shares dimensions with popular movements
  • Decent power reserve

Cons:

  • Parts may not be easy to source
  • Tech sheets and drawings not readily available
  • Has not been on the market long enough for the community to share experiences with performance or serviceability

Concluding Thoughts:

The G100 is constantly being compared to the ETA 2824-2 an Sellita SW200-1 due to being Swiss made and of similar dimensions, but is it more accurate to call it a Swiss 9015? So far, it looks like only 2 microbrands are advertising this caliber, with the Zelos retailing below $1,000, so maybe the unit price is actually more affordable than the movement price quotes above.

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Rimas
Rimas
1 year ago

Well it is based on Miyota 9015, that’s for sure. Just replaced the shock absorbers and different material of the rotor – Tungsten.

Jeff E.
Jeff E.
1 year ago
Reply to  Rimas

What shock absorber did you change to and why?

Rimas
Rimas
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff E.

La Joux Perret did, not me 🙂 I meant that it is based on Miyota 9015 architecture, they just changed the shock absorbers and rotor material.

andrew sudjana
andrew sudjana
1 year ago
Reply to  Rimas

how can be 68 power reserve?

Omar Alexander
Omar Alexander
1 year ago
Reply to  andrew sudjana

Different mainspring. Like how the newer Sellita have more power reserve.

Kevin G
Kevin G
1 year ago

Swedish watch maker Malm is offering the G-100 as a choice (along with SW200-1) in several models, starting with the Wolf Air Viggen.

Marc
Marc
1 year ago

The eBay G100 for sale at $295 USD is the “SoignĂ©” (MLJP highest grade) version.

Erik
Erik
1 year ago

The movement is an option with this watch, along with Sellita SW200-1 in this Swedish Microbrand also. I think the analogue depth gauge is quite cool feature and it’s a nice looking piece also.

https://se.malmwatches.com/en/pages/frogdiver-44

frederik
frederik
1 year ago

Elka Watches also feature this movement!

Jim C.
Jim C.
1 year ago

Aquastar 60 uses this movement.

WatchYaWant
WatchYaWant
1 year ago

The French microbrand March LA-B uses this caliber in their Belza diver.

Justin
Justin
10 months ago

Farer has 2 models with this calibre, their 39.5mm and 36mm 3 hander automatic

Ricardo
Ricardo
8 months ago

Edox Neptunian GRANDE RÉSERVE DATE AUTOMATIC also uses this caliber: https://www.edox.ch/product/neptunian-grande-reserve-date-automatic-80801-3bbum-bucdn/

They only call it Edox Caliber 808

Hakim
Hakim
8 months ago

Elka Watch Co. is using the G100
http://www.elkawatch.ch

R Bunuan
R Bunuan
6 months ago

Meraud Bonaire recently released uses this caliber

cybertrancer
Member
5 months ago

Italian “micro brand” OFFICINE TECNICHE, uses the LJP G100 movement with the “top” grade (A012 according to LJP site) on their “Svper” diver-dress watches.

marc
marc
4 months ago

Straum Jan Mayen uses this movement.

TempvsExMachina
Member
4 months ago

The description above has four instances of the wrong abbreviation for the La Joux-Perret name. It shows “MJLP” and “JLP” twice each. It should be “MLJP” and “LJP”, respectively Please correct.

TempvsExMachina
Member
4 months ago

Hand setting height clearances appear to be 0.950mm (H) + 0.400mm (M; 1.350mm) + 0.400mm (S; 1.750mm). The Miyota 9019 (the lower hand setting variant of the 9015) has the same total clearance, but gives 0.05mm less clearance to the hour hand to give 0.05mm more clearance to the seconds hand. Below you’ll find the LJP site page where I found that spec (once, there, look under the “Switching” column). Correct me if I’m wrong on these two points: (1) the first column is where I derived that information, where I interpreted “pavement” to mean “minute”, and (2) the columns… Read more »

Steven
Steven
3 months ago

The Zelos Eagle 2 also uses this movement

Andy
Andy
2 months ago

I build a watch with this movement because it’s finishing look good, not bad.

Frasier
Frasier
1 month ago
Reply to  Andy

are ETA 2824-2 dial are compatible?

Stian
Stian
1 month ago
Reply to  Frasier

Yes dial and handa are compatible, and if you need a new stem, the stem for the myiota 9015 is identical.

Stian
Stian
2 months ago

If anyone doesnt know yet, the LJP-G100 uses the same stem as the miyota 9015. They are identical, and works.. incase anyone has bought the LJP and chopped the original stem too short..

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