I have noticed with some of the microbrands that they might not specify the actual movement used in the watch instead they quote "Japanese Automatic With 3 Hands Date" interesting, just sharing to this crowd.
If, by microbrand, you are referring to China-based factory-direct watches based on copied designs... yes, they have been doing that for a while. Even worse, is that the chances of it actually being a Made in Japan movement are slim, unless maybe it's a Miyota 8215. They also could be doing this so they can use whatever movements they have in stock at the time.
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I’ve noticed this as well; although, some China-based factory-direct websites actually specify the movement in the advertised watch. Two examples are the Steeldive and Watchdives websites. They actually indicate “Japan NH35” most times. Now, whether or not those are the actual movements in the watches when they are delivered is another story. So far, I’ve had good luck when I purchase one of these watches on the used market—the NH35 has always been in the watche(s). I can’t tell if they are fake/clones or not so there’s that 🙂
They actually indicate “Japan NH35” most times.
If they are claiming "Japan" NH35A then it's misleading, unless the movement is signed "Japan"... unless it's a really old new old stock movement, that is improbable.
The same can be said when buying raw watch movements from movement resellers - particularly the China-based resellers since that is where a majority of them are being sold. It helps that TMI, who is tasked with production and distribution of non-Seiko movements is based in Hong Kong with offices in India.
But despite the lack of honesty about the main basis of a watch, folks will still give them their hard earned money. And other brands will continue to unintentionally mislead their customers by writing their marketing material and specs based on what the suppliers told them.
OK, I can't argue with that.
Some watchsellers also says TMI PC21S a "JAPAN MOVEMENT" but actually they're Singapore movements.They actually indicate “Japan NH35” most times.
If they are claiming "Japan" NH35A then it's misleading, unless the movement is signed "Japan"... unless it's a really old new old stock movement, that is improbable.
The same can be said when buying raw watch movements from movement resellers - particularly the China-based resellers since that is where a majority of them are being sold. It helps that TMI, who is tasked with production and distribution of non-Seiko movements is based in Hong Kong with offices in India.
But despite the lack of honesty about the main basis of a watch, folks will still give them their hard earned money. And other brands will continue to unintentionally mislead their customers by writing their marketing material and specs based on what the suppliers told them.
Some watchsellers also says TMI PC21S a "JAPAN MOVEMENT" but actually they're Singapore movements.
This is true! And it is actually signed "Singapore" on the movement itself: TMI caliber PC21S. Unlike the made in Malaysia (or elsewhere) NHXX movements which feature no country of origin markings.
Some watchsellers also says TMI PC21S a "JAPAN MOVEMENT" but actually they're Singapore movements.
This is true! And it is actually signed "Singapore" on the movement itself: TMI caliber PC21S. Unlike the made in Malaysia (or elsewhere) NHXX movements which feature no country of origin markings.
Most customers bought a watch with TMI PC21S were cheated by someone who sells watch to them, In my opinion, the cheapest japanese quartz movement are AL21/Al35/Y121 ,they were produced by S.Epson.
Where is the watch industry headed next! High frequency, high beat? High fashion? It seems to have plateaued. Mechanical watches have certain limitations based upon materials. We seem to repackaging existing movements into new cases with new dials made of exotic materials but no real changes under the hood . So where are we headed?
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