Stp Caliber Stp111

SwissTP Caliber STP1-11

Stp Caliber Stp111

Manufacturer Swiss Technology Production
Caliber Number STP1-11
Base Caliber ETA 2824-2 / Sellita SW200-1
Movement Type Automatic
Diameter
26mm
Casing Diameter
25.60mm
Height
4.6mm thick
Jewels 26
Vibrations Per Hour
28,800 BPH
Power Reserve
44 hours
Lift Angle
52 degrees
Amplitude
Acceptable range 200-320 degrees
Isochronism
+/- 20 seconds/day
Stem Length
15.7mm (17.7mm for extra long)
Shock System Incabloc
Barrel Spring
Nivaflex NM
Manual Wind Direction Clockwise
Rotor Winding Direction
Bi-directional
Hacking?
Yes
Hand-Windable?
Yes
Functions Hours, minutes, central seconds, date at 3:00 (6:00 also possible)
Country of Manufacture Switzerland
Known Models
BOLDR Odyssey , Méraud Bonaire, Stella Felix (Add your watch to the comments below…)

STP caliber STP1-11 is a Swiss made automatic watch movement with 26 jewels. Similar to the Sellita SW200-1, the STP1-11 movement is an ETA 2824-2 clone.

Official technical documentation dates the STP1-11 as being produced as far back as November 1, 2012, although this movement was being researched and developed as far back as 2008. Modifications were made to tech sheets as recently as May 2, 2020.

Swiss Technology Production Caliber Stp1 11

Fossil Affiliation:

STP stands for Swiss Technology Production, however, you will mostly see this manufacturer simply referred to as STP. Their website also references the name SwissTP. Whatever you call it, STP is a Swiss factory owned by Fossil Group with a production rate of about 100,000 movements per year.

STP1-11 VS STP1-11M:

There is also a similar caliber STP1-11M which is the non automatic version of the STP1-11. The manual wind version is slightly shorter at 3.7mm but has the same case fitting diameter of 25.6mm. The beat rate is the same, as well as the power reserve, but the jewel count drops from 26 to 20 without the need of an automatic wind unit.

Accuracy:

The STP tech sheets claim an accuracy rating of -0/+15 seconds per day, operating within a max amplitude of 320 degrees and minimum amplitude of 200 degrees. Each movement is tested in 5 positions, which is comparable to the ETA 2824-2 Top grade.

No Date:

We couldn’t find an official version of the STP1-11 without a calendar complication, but found a watch brand that had STP modify the STP1-11 for a no-date watch. so it is possible:

“The movement is modified to a no-date movement, all components related to the date have been removed. Upon request STP has adjusted the movements that there are only 2 crown positions, one for winding and one to set the time.” –Méraud Bonaire

Crown Functions:

As this movement is based on the ETA 2824-2, the crown functions in a similar way:

  • Position 1 – Manual-winding mode: Depending on the watch, this could mean the crown is pressed against the case, or on a watch with a screw down crown, it means the crown is unscrewed and in hand-winding mode. When in hand or manual winding mode, turning the crown forward (clockwise) will wind the mainspring. Rotating in reverse will ratchet the movement.
  • Position 2 – Date setting mode: With the crown pulled out one click, the calendar or date setting function is engaged. Rotating the crown forward (clockwise) with advance the datewheel forward. In this mode, rotating the crown counterclockwise will do nothing.
  • Position 3 – Time setting mode: Pulling the crown out two clicks engages time setting mode. Rotating the crown towards you (counterclockwise/backward) will advance the hour and minute hands. Rotating the crown away from you (clockwise) will move the time backward. The seconds hand will be stopped for fine tuned time setting (this is what is known as a hacking seconds hand).

Are you more of a visual learner? Watch this video we created to show the crown functions on the STP1-11.

Replacement Prices:

While we do not have volume pricing available at this time (still need to obtain a price list), replacement prices for individual STP1-11 movements were found online in the range of $159.00 to $190.00 USD.

Caliber STP1-11 Macro Gallery:

Stp Caliber Stp1 11 Balance Wheel

Video of the STP1-11 in Action:

Manufacturer’s Video:

Pros and Cons:

Pros

  • Based on the familiar ETA 2824-2, so most watchmakers will be willing to service a watch with this movement.
  • Based on a workhorse movement that powers a majority of the Swiss made watches in the world.
  • Available from the manufacturer without supply threats.
  • Finished and tested to be comparable to “Top” grade ETA.

Cons

  • Individual cost is roughly the same as an original ETA 2824-2.
  • STP parts do not seem to be readily available by the major watch parts suppliers.

Quick STP1-11 FAQS:

Can you over wind this movement?
No.

Does it hack?
Yes.

Is it COSC?
SwissTP tests them to COSC criteria (ex: 5 positions), but only COSC if the watch brand had it officially certified.

Are parts interchangeable with ETA or other clones?
Some may be, but not all.

Can I replace my 2824-2 or SW200-1 with this?
You should be able to, that’s the advantage of ETA clones. The dimensions are the same.

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Josh
Josh
4 years ago

How Swiss is this really? Like Swiss Swiss or China Swiss?

Chad
Chad
4 years ago
Reply to  Josh

Swiss MADE
My Zodiac super sea wolf saturation uses this and I love it.

Christopher
Christopher
4 years ago
Reply to  Josh

This is the internet, there is information here, more information than you could ever imagine, all you have to do is search for it so if you search for what makes a Swiss movement or watch Swiss, then you’ll find the answer you’re looking for and you’ll save yourself from looking like a tool in the process. It’s a win win…

MICHAEL M FROST
MICHAEL M FROST
3 years ago
Reply to  Christopher

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”

Philistine
Philistine
4 months ago
Reply to  Christopher

Do a search on the internet, gets directed to this website, poses their question, and now they have to see this d*uche-a*s comment. LOL

Graham
Graham
3 years ago
Reply to  Josh

Chinese movement actually, assembled in Switzerland

Christopher Steel
Christopher Steel
3 years ago
Reply to  Graham

This is not a Chinese Movement assembled in Switzerland. This is a proper Swiss movement made in Switzerland. There is confusion between the Fossil owned STP (Swiss technology production) and the similarly named SwissTech who ARE from Hong Kong and DO assemble in Switzerland.

Patrik Babják
Patrik Babják
3 years ago

I’ve actually found the original movement for the skeletonized STP6-15, and that originated from China. Why would this be different?
Nevertheless the movements are quite OK, look and work pretty good

I
I
3 years ago
Reply to  Josh

It depends. STP-11 comes in a Chronometer version that is COSC certified. This means that the components of the entire watch are manufactured and assembled in Switzerland, while most “Swiss Made” watches, while manufactured in Switzerland, need only have 51 percent of its parts manufactured there.

Abe Saed
Abe Saed
3 years ago
Reply to  I

I think COSC doesn’t mean the watch has to be entirely made in Switzerland, just Swiss Made and following what you said about 51%. Almost no watches are 100% made in Switzerland. Read the COSC page on this site, I think it explains well.

Philistine
Philistine
4 months ago
Reply to  I

It’s not 51% of parts. At least it no longer is. The rule is only 60 % of VALUE. And value can easily be padded with admin, qc, and transportation costs that add nothing to the quality of the watch.

Philistine
Philistine
4 months ago
Reply to  Josh

It’s China Swiss. It was called out that they were caught with a photo of this movement with Sea-Gull markers on their website. It’s been since removed. Rumor is they may have moved more in house, but I haven’t found any conclusive reporting on that.

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JeanL
JeanL
4 years ago

On a MAGRETTE Moana Pacific
Great Movement with a tough shock absorption and a power reserve of 40 hours, tested. Winding however is in both direction… or clockwise only as listed ? Not sure

Dan Watchman
Dan Watchman
4 years ago
Reply to  JeanL

I thought that means winding of the crown is clockwise. If it’s based on ETA 2824 then the winding weight should wind in both directions. I have seen ETA clones only wind in one direction though.

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
3 years ago
Reply to  Dan Watchman

The only ETA Clone that I know of which winds, by that I take it you mean the AUTO ROTOR mechanism, in one direction is the ETA /VALJOUX 7750/ SELLITA SW500 series a ALL othe ETA and SELLITA Clones are dual directional

Christopher
Christopher
4 years ago
Reply to  JeanL

The movement is like every other ETA or ETA clone movement, in order to wind the movement by hand, you have to turn the crown clockwise. The rotor however, is bidirectional, it winds the movement regardless of the direction of spin.

Dom
Dom
4 years ago

This is also in the Maen Hudson

Fajan
Fajan
4 years ago

There are some new micro-brands that are using this movement. I own a echo/neutra AVERAU with STP 3-13 that is an improvement of STP 1-11 model. The watch looks very nice with it.
In addition to 1-11 version, it has the swan neck regulator and blue screws.

Henrik Leonhard Jensen
Henrik Leonhard Jensen
3 years ago

Roamer Searock does have The Stp1-11

Seb
Seb
2 years ago

Also Roamer soleure

Frank
Frank
3 years ago

Meccaniche Veneziane Nereide has this movement, called it caliber MV285

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
3 years ago
Reply to  Frank

MV285 is now a SEIKO movement I believe The watches no longer have a Swiss Made Logo.

Douglas O.
Douglas O.
1 year ago
Reply to  Albert Hall

Incorrect. The Meccaniche Veneziane Nereide movement designated as MV285 is and always has been the swiss movement. The NH35 Seiko movement is designated as MV145.

jrman8445
jrman8445
3 years ago

Can not wait bought The Fifth Blue Auto With STP1-11 . Delivery Time is between 8-12 weeks killing me it is not on my wrist yet . Sounds like a great movement Time will tell .

Frank Steuer
Frank Steuer
3 years ago

I own a Formex Essence Leggera with a STP1-11 Movement for about 8 weeks now and I can admit, that this movement is incredibly accurate. I have +1.5 secs per day and when I lay the watch on the side, with the crown upwards for a night (after 2 days), the watch runs exactly on second, compared to a radio-controlled digital watch. In my opinion the movement is top notch, even better than a sellita sw200-1.

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
3 years ago
Reply to  Frank Steuer

It is an adjusted SELLITA SW200 If it has 25 jewels it would be a ETA2824 Most movements of either number can be, with patience, adjusted to near chron-standards by a competent watchmaker The cost is in the time it takes to do the adjustment and can take, I’m told, an hour or two which would work out at around £100-12 I’ve got a couople of watches to hand one with the ETA2824 and the other with the SELLITASW200 and both keep time well enough at about 15 secs a day Strangely they BOTH run faster during the cold weather!!

Chuck
Chuck
3 years ago

421 Venice Abyss features this movement. Runs like a champ.

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Abe Saed
Abe Saed
3 years ago

Maybe a dumb question, but 100,000 movements a year, is that a lot or a little for an ETA type clone movement?

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DIMITRIOS CHARVATIS
DIMITRIOS CHARVATIS
3 years ago

I have the Kanton from Sternglas that also has this movement

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Mauro
Mauro
3 years ago

The (Mass)Drop Felix automatic watch uses the STP1-11 for its standard model and an elabore-grade SW-200 for the upgraded one. Sadly, neither variant of the Felix has a date window despite both movements providing said complication.

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
1 year ago
Reply to  Mauro

STP1-11 In a previous reply I did not make myself clear . This movement is a clone of the ETA 2842-2 as is the SELLITA SW200. Sellita had been making ETA 2842 for ETA for years and when ETA ceased to provide movements to outside makers it naturally took up the reins So did STP. . There are actually several makers especially CHINESE [and I believe INDIAN] manufacturers doing the same thing and all quite legally because ETA manufacturing brights ran out at least a couple of decades ago. [TAG HEUR switched to SELLITA movements around 2012 I believe] There… Read more »

357
357
3 years ago

Hello, thank you for sharing this information. Am I wrong or it positions itself as a very good copy of ETA?

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
1 year ago
Reply to  357

These are not ‘copies’ they are high grade and perfectly legal clones. Not unusual when the original manufacturing rights run out.

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Rob
Rob
3 years ago

The new Serica field watches have a mechanical, yes mechanical STP1-11 movement. Mine runs around 3 to 5 seconds fast per day.

PB
PB
3 years ago
Reply to  Rob

So they removed the automatic winder and sell it as a mechanical manual wind instead of just using a manual wind movement in the first place? Seems odd. I would be interested to know more about why they did that.

Rob
Rob
3 years ago
Reply to  PB

Maybe it’s to save cost on R and D.

Gregory Johnsons
Gregory Johnsons
3 years ago
Reply to  PB

Rob is right that the brand Serica is selling watches with the STP1-11 as mechanical manual winding. Maybe they came across a cheap batch of movements and wanted to have a manual wind so just used them without the rotor. Like why not just use the Unitas 6497 or 6498? Strange.

Dean
Dean
2 years ago
Reply to  PB

I believe they did it to protect it from overwinding

Albert Hall
Albert Hall
1 year ago
Reply to  PB

Watches can be divided into three layers, ONE the engine aka the manual part, TWO the AUTOROTOR and in some cases THREE the CHRONOGRAPH movement. DUBOIS/DUPRAZ specialise in the CHRONGRAPH part.

In a integrated CHRONO movement such as the ETA7500 or it’s clone the SW500 the Crown and Pushers will line up. In a movement such as the ETA2892 or the SW300 with a CHRONO [Dubois/Dupraz] overlay module they will not. The ubiquitous VALJOUX/ETA 7500/[SELLITA SW500] was basically an adaptation of an earlier VALJOUX MANUAL movement with the addition of a AUTOROTOR Module.

A Cast
A Cast
3 years ago

ZSSW 53 Compression Diver. Very accurate movement, not a fan of the bracelet.

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Gregory Johnsons
Gregory Johnsons
3 years ago
Reply to  A Cast

Beautiful

Jacquet Droz Jr.
Jacquet Droz Jr.
3 years ago

@Josh, STP 1-11 is ChinaSwiss, so to speak.
But it’s a First Class COSC Chronometer.

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago

I very recently took delivery of an Ocean Crawler Navigator (used but never worn in MINT condition) after wearing the watch in the house for 4 hours it simply stopped, no amount of handwinding would get it going, there was a definite audible wobble which wasnt sounding healthy. I immediately got in touch with OC who asked me to send it to the local repairer under their 5year warranty, after inspection the repairer deemed it had been damaged/dropped in transit, the watch came to me boxed and bubble wrapped. Given that OC shock test each watch the jury is out… Read more »

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

Update, the watchmaker said the balance spring was broken, he has however replaced the whole movement and has changed to a Sellita SW200 a movement I know well, I trust his advice, he wasn’t very complimentary about the STP movement,

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

Finally…whats the bloody point in having a ‘forum’ where nobody replies….what a crock of shite.

Gregory Johnsons
Gregory Johnsons
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

It could be that nobody had the same issue so there was no reply. Better than other forums where there are a lot of nonsense replies without any advice or knowledge shared. It’s good that you came back to update your experience, but no need to be trolling lol. I have been following this thread but didn’t reply because my watch is new and only now getting broken in.

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago

I’d had a very very long day at work lol…no trolling here, I’m harmless

Gregory Johnsons
Gregory Johnsons
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

No worries mate. Happens to everyone, have a better day today!

Gregory Johnsons
Gregory Johnsons
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

Good to know the STP1-11 can be swapped for a Sellita and presumably an ETA. I wanted to know, was the watch manufacturer completely on board with the swap?

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago

Yes they were, they sent the watch repairer the Sellita.

nycwatchguy
nycwatchguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

Do they offer that watch with choice of STP or Sellita when purchasing new?

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
3 years ago
Reply to  nycwatchguy

No, I’ve since found out that early Ocean Crawler Navigators had the STP but later models 2019 onwards are Sellita, it looks as though OC only use Sellita now, the watch repairer said it was like going from a Citroen to a Merc such is the difference in quality

philspencelayh
philspencelayh
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Smithyman

Sounds like you had a “Friday Afternoon” movement. The wobble sounds like reversing wheel problem, which I have had on an ETA and a Sellita which is easily fixed but the balance as well sounds pretty unlucky

John Deaux
John Deaux
3 years ago

I had the Maen Hudson MKI with the ETA 2428 elabore and it ran +3 no matter what I put it through but sold it and recently got the MKIII with this STP. I’ve heard that the biggest issue with these movements is that to keep cost down, quality control and regulation is left to the watchmaker. Since Maen does limited runs a few times per year they have the time and willingness to do that. I don’t know how true that is about the movement but something to think about when it comes to brands that pump out tons… Read more »

Tony Smithyman
Tony Smithyman
2 years ago
Reply to  John Deaux

Those numbers are excellent, I suspect mine was a duffer, i like to keep things simple, if its keeping time like that then you clearly have a decent example.

Martin
Martin
2 years ago

Charlie Watch Concordia uses this model

Mario
Mario
2 years ago

Hi, My Roamer Rotodate II (SKU: 949660 41 25 90) is running on the STP1-11 Movement & from the information I could gather from another Watch site, it says the following regarding the said movement:- “The time is set with the crown in third position (pulled all the way out). Rotate the crown clockwise to advance the minute and hour hands and counter-clockwise to turn them backward.” But the time setting on my watch is the opposite of this. So, to move the time forward, I need to turn the crown anti clockwise. Is this normal please or could it be… Read more »

Mario
Mario
2 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Thank you so much! Sincerely appreciate your prompt response & assistance! It’s Super helpful! Cheers

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Paul
Paul
2 years ago

Based on ETA/Sellita but the base caliber isn’t ETA or Sellita ffs!

Marco
Marco
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul

If you know so much then why don’t you say it here instead of making some comment. If it isn’t based on ETA/Sellita then what is it based on ffs!

Paul
Paul
2 years ago
Reply to  Marco

It is based on them but doesn’t use their base ffs

HoustonReal
HoustonReal
2 years ago
Reply to  Marco

Actually, it was derived from the Sea-Gull ST2130, which is a Chinese 2824-2 clone. STP may have used an ebauche from Sea-Gull in China to build the STP1-11 family. Photos on the company web site previously included the label, “ST2100”, which is the identifier found on the Sea-Gull ST2130 movement.

TimeMega300
TimeMega300
2 years ago

In one of my watches this workhorse do it’s job with verve. I have the no date, so i can tell what it does. Giving no date notification. What is does is running smooth. When no power reserve, a few moves from the rotor brings energy to the mainspring. So it needs actually no swings with the crown. Accuracy is ok, no cosc. I own a watch with the Sellita SW200-1. Runs for years without any hordes and bumps. But it needs some turns with the crown to bring the hands alive when run out of power reserve. Compare to… Read more »

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Phillip
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You can add the York & Front Burrard – Series 001 with STP 1-11. At least what they advertise:
https://yorkfront.com/products/the-burrard-series-001-swiss-made

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Matthew
Matthew
1 year ago

Mr Jones watches is now using these in their “XL” models.

magnax23
magnax23
1 year ago

Dutch brand Portahl uses it in their Peacemaker.

Tdm
Tdm
1 year ago

This may be legally Swiss made but it IS a Chinese ebouche and rotor at the very least.

Stephen E
Stephen E
11 months ago

Wicked Watch Pearl Diver offers this movement

Mike Dawson
Mike Dawson
11 months ago

My Oupinke 3199 uses this movement and I love it

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

LORENZ CAPITOL-HILL has this movement

Paul Giscard
Paul Giscard
4 days ago

I have just recently bought the Firle Sennan automatic and it is fitted with this movement, modified to not have the date.Only had it 1 day so can’t comment to the accuracy or anything else yet.

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