Seiko SII Caliber NH35

Seiko (SII) Caliber NH35A

Seiko SII Caliber NH35

Manufacturer Seiko (Seiko Instruments Inc. aka SII, Time Module Inc. aka TMI)
Caliber Number NH35A (aka NH35)
Movement Type Automatic, self-winding mechanical
Lignes
12”’
Diameter
27.40mm
Casing Diameter
29.36mm
Height
5.32mm
Jewels 24
Vibrations Per Hour
21,600 bph
Lift Angle 53 degrees
Shock System Diashock
Power Reserve
41 hours
Rotor Direction
Bi-directional winding (Magic Lever)
Credit
calibercorner.com
Hand-Windable? Yes
Manual Winding
Clockwise direction
Hand Sizes
1.5mm / .89mm / .21mm
Stem
351-200 / 351200 (tap 10)
Functions Central hours; central minutes; central sweeping seconds; date calendar at 3:00 (sometimes other locations depending on the dial design)
Hacking Seconds?
Yes
Country of Manufacture Japan or Malaysia (see below)
Known Brands
Seiko, Invicta, Vostok, Lum-Tec, Spinnaker, Minus-8 Layer, Advisor AstroHelm, Advisor Ascent, D1 Milano Subacqueo Lido Diver, Android (Aragon) Cocoon Auto, Elliot Brown Holton, Lytt Labs Inception V1.1, Boldr Odyssey Bronze Meteoblack, Audaz Seafarer Diver, DELTAt Watch Umi U-731 (Add your watch in the comments below…)

The Seiko/TMI/SII caliber NH35A is a hand-windable, hacking upgrade from the Seiko caliber NH25A (read: NH25A vs NH35A). The earliest documentation on this movement that we were able to find was issued on 2/14/2011, this also corresponds with the 2011-2012 time frame that the first NH35A powered watches started hitting the market.

The NH35A is currently one of the world’s most popular automatic movements and is widely available in many affordable/microbrand watches.

Time Module aka Seiko Instruments labels the NH calibers as part of the “Basic Mechanical Movement” Series. They also have NE calibers that are labeled as “Premium” Mechanical Series.

NH35A Also Known As…

It’s also important to note that the Seiko NH35A movement is basically an unbranded version of the Seiko caliber 4R35. for example, the NH36 is an unbranded version of the 4R36 (day + date) found in the Next Generation Orange Monster. Read: NHXX caliber differences.

Accuracy:

In the technical documentation, Time Module claims that the NH35A accuracy range is within -20~+40 seconds per day under normal conditions. They recorded these accuracy measurements without the date complication being active. This shouldn’t have any noticeable bearing on the accuracy, but it’s interesting nonetheless.

Note: When you attempt to get a measurement of your watch’s accuracy, it’s important to make sure your watch is fully wound or the lack of power reserve may skew the test results. TMI states that measurements should be done within 10-60 minutes after the movement is fully wound up.

Winding the Mainspring:

So what does fully wound up mean? The NH35A should be fully wound after about 55 manual turns of the crown.

This movement is also equipped with the Seiko Magic Lever, so shaking the watch side to side should get it going almost immediately.

Crown Position Functions:

0 (against the case): Clockwise = Manual Winding / Counterclockwise = Nothing
1 (pulled out one click): Clockwise = nothing / Counterclockwise = Date setting
2 (pulled out two clicks): Time setting clockwise and counterclockwise

Reference Variations:

The NH35A has several variations depending on a few variables. While all are considered to be “NH35A”, there can be different reference numbers based on each combination of variable options. This information is mostly useful for watch manufacturers, but can also be useful if you intend on swapping your movement for any reason. The variations include the location where the movement was produced, date position, calendar color, and hand fitting type.

Date Position

From the factory, the NH35A has the date at 3:00 or 6:00. The 3:00 date version is the most common.

To determine which date position your raw movement has, point the crown to the right and look for the number that reads from left to right – is it at 3:00 or 6:00? The location will determine the way the dates are printed on the datewheel. If your watch has a date in a different location, say a tilted date at 4:00, then it means the watch manufacturer used an NH35A with a 3:00 date position and cutout the date window at the 4:00 position.

Also keep in mind that although unlikely, it is possible the watch manufacturer printed a custom datewheel – again, possible but unlikely.

Date Disc Color

The NH35A datewheel (aka date disc) is available from the factory in two versions: white background with black text, or black background with white text. The white datewheels with black text are the most common. Some watch brands choose to customize their datewheels to have different colors or font types.

Country Code

Part of the reference number also determines the origin of production (see the rotor section below). J is for Japan, M is for Malaysia. The majority of NHXX movements are made in Malaysia now.

Hand Fitting Type

NH35A movements can be made for Hand Type M or L. Type L is like a high hand version. This affects the overall height of the movement from the bottom to the top of second hand pinion. The thickness of the NH35A is 5.32mm, but the overall height including the hands can be about 7.6mm (M) or 8mm (L).

When designing a watch from scratch, this is useful for determining the thickness of your case, dial, space between dial and crystal, etc. When modding your current watch or swapping movements, be sure that you order the correct Hand Fitting Type or you may end up with hands sticking up too far away from the dial.

Rotor Variations:

While many watch brands that use the NH35A will opt for a custom rotor (oscillating weight), as of the official tech sheets from March 2017, two stock rotors are available depending on the country of origin: Japan or Malaysia.

Sii Caliber Nh35a Rotor Japan Malaysia

Update: Many rotors are now without a country of origin stamp (keep reading…)

TMI Rotors:

There are also rotors that are stamped with TMI (Time Module Inc) instead of SII (Seiko Instruments). If you see this, it doesn’t mean your movement is fake, it just means the movement was produced on the TMI side of things.

Seiko Nh35a Tmi Rotor

Update: It is now more common to find TMI rotors than SII. It is becoming nearly impossible to find SII unless it is new old stock.

New Country of Origin Mystery:

What is really the big mystery lately is that many NHXX movements are showing up without the country of origin stamped on the rotor (or anywhere else for that matter). These non-country of origin movement appear to be coming from Chinese suppliers. Does this mean that SII is having the movements made in China but not willing do disclose that fact? Or are Chinese factories (that may or may not have contracts to manufacture movements for Seiko) running off their own batches of NH movements? With the supply of NH movements supposedly running low and prices going up, more and more of these unmarked movements are popping up. If Seiko is having them made in China, they should just disclose that transparently on the rotor, as they do with NH calibers made in Japan and Malaysia. Especially since watches sold in the United States are required to have a country of origin on the movement.

We have reached out to our contact at Seiko with the following email and will update this post if a response is given:

Dear Seiko,
There are many NH movements being sold with “NH35A / TWENTY-FOUR JEWELS / SII” and no country of origin markings. This is inconsistent with official documentation that shows a country of origin marking at the top of the rotor.
  • Are all genuine Seiko caliber NH movements signed with a country of origin on the rotor?
  • Are genuine NH movements only manufactured in either Japan or Malaysia?
Thank you in advance for any clarification you can provide.

Are there fake NH35A movements?

There was a time when the answer to this was why would anyone bother to fake a $30-50 movement? Times have changed. With the inflated price surge caused by the rapid growth of microbrands and the China produced homage watch market, supply and demand is tainting the waters around the NHXX line. While you may not see blatant fakes of the NH35A, there are clones popping up at half the price, with no text engraved on the rotors (aka sterile). Update: Scratch the last line. Now there are blatant fake NH35A movements out there, be careful!

Yes, there are fake NH35 movements (will try to do a side-by-side comparison eventually).

Is this a result of Seiko using factories in China and then those factories doing what they are well-known for: stealing the design and instead of shutting down the production when the purchase order quantity is fulfilled, just continue production on the same equipment but with subtle changes like not stamping the brand name into the rotor.

Is it a result of the Ali-sellers moving so many watches over the past couple of years that they finally just started to explore sourcing their own copycat movements from within China? The cheap-from-China watch crowd continues to fuel the Ali-Machine and support counterfeiters rather than real microbrands and fellow watch enthusiasts.

Either way, clones and fakes are showing up and they even steal pictures from Caliber Corner to sell their movements. That means you could be buying a fake movement from a seller who is showing you a real movement based on a stolen image from this site. If you see sellers using images from this site (they even remove the watermarks), please report the seller to the platform they are using.

Replacement Price:

At the time of this post, replacement prices for the caliber NH35A were found online for around $38.27-$59.99 USD. Buy it here

Update 10/2021: The cost of replacing an NH35A (and any of the NH series movements) has recently increased to about $60.00 – 80.00 USD in the name of supply/demand and the current “world situation”. Even suppliers with existing stock suddenly increased their prices without warning after seeing other sellers doing it. It’s a dramatic increase in price, and yet to be known if it is justified or worth it. This may also lead to microbrands using more Miyota 8 series movements instead of the NH35. This will inevitably result in an increase in retail prices for watches with this movement, even for watches that are already on the shelf containing movements that were bought at the old prices – such is how pricing works in the watch industry.


Examples of NH35A Powered Watches:

Seiko NH35A movement in a Minus-8 Layer watch

NH35A in a Vostok Jurgis Kairys – notice that this one doesn’t say Japan or Malaysia on the top.

NH35A in a BOLDR Odyssey bronze meteorite dial diver found here.

Sii Nh35a Boldr Micro Brand Dive Watch

NH35 Custom Rotor:

Sometimes you can find NH35A watches with a custom rotor. Typically, this is just a sticker placed on the stock rotor. The custom sticker rotor example below was found in this Spinnaker Dumas diver. Notice how it says Japan on it? Based on the country of origin information above, it would be interesting to peel back the sticker to see if it is in fact a Japan stamped rotor.

Nh35a Japan Spinnaker Dumas Watch

Another Spinnaker with a similar custom rotor sticker. This time in a Fleuss diver model.

Seiko Tmi Nh35 Spinnaker Fluess

Invicta is also known for using yellow stickers on some of their NH35A powered watches. Below is a bronze Pro Diver. Notice how they didn’t put a country of origin, but they did print U.S.A. Product design on the rotor. A quick glance by an unsuspecting consumer who knows little about watches and calibers, might cause them to think the movement is made in America.

Nh35a Invicta Divers Watch

Video Action:

Here is a quick film of an NH35A movement found in a BOLDR Odyssey bronze microbrand dive watch.


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Phil Savory
Phil Savory
9 years ago

I’ve an INVICTA divers style watch with this movement…bought it about 6 months ago…honestly I can’t complain…gains about a minute every 11 days never ever take the watch off..built like a russian tank £106:00 plus p+p…happy days….very smooth rotor…very quiet..10/10…..Phil.

john molyneux
john molyneux
8 years ago
Reply to  Phil Savory

Thanks for your review phil,i have a few wstches with the nh35a in and to be honest,i’ve not wore them yet but if losng or gaining 1 minute every ten days or so is right then that is great for an automatic.i’d read that this particular movement was very good so if your review is right then im happy.
John

Brandons
Brandons
6 years ago
Reply to  john molyneux

I agree that this NH35A movement is truly impressive for the cost and its accuracy. I have an INVICTA which cost about $100 but keeps on time with the NIST Atomic clock on a winder or when worn within 10 seconds per day, and I have checked it to a closer tolerance than that recently. For an inexpensive automatic movement it has performed far better than an Orient M-Force which cost 3 times as much.

John Wood
John Wood
6 years ago
Reply to  john molyneux

I have a 122 dollar seiko 5 sports watch w/4R36A movement–when worn regularly it is -3 seconds a day.

Bert Kanne
Bert Kanne
6 years ago
Reply to  John Wood

I have quite a few watches with NH35a. One in particular in an Invicta Prodiver 17042 is COSC accurate and it has never been opened or calibrated. How is this possible?

Larry
Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  Bert Kanne

I don’t know but my Breitling and Omega NEVER kept time as well. Pro Diver running +0.6 Spd. I got lucky.

Larry
Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  Larry

After 2 months it now lost 5 minutes. Still beats my Breitling with an ETA 2428!

Jorge Robles
Jorge Robles
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert Kanne

You were lucky. What happens is that companies that produce their own hairsprings and assemble their own balance wheels and bridges, have some tolerances where the hairspring is slightly longer or slightly shorter, or just the exact length. And then, the same happens when the poise is done, it has slight variations from the center, and the collete positioning too. And there is also the size and shape and balancing of the balance wheel too. Each one of these items influence the accuracy and precision of a movement. Some people then gets watches whose variations in these areas are small… Read more »

ROMAN
ROMAN
9 months ago
Reply to  Jorge Robles

Nyní Moje tw ocel s motorem NH35A pracují hodně přesně za dva měsíce jen 3,5 minuty .zpoždění … VELMI OK .

David Reimer
David Reimer
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert Kanne

LUCK

MARK WOLFSON
MARK WOLFSON
3 years ago
Reply to  Bert Kanne

Hi Bert, hope your day is going well. I would appreciate your assistance. As you are very familiar with this movement, I have a Pro Diver 8926OB. When I got it, within a 24 hour period (including rest), I was getting -1.6spd. Now, on wrist I am getting +.5spd but it speeds up significantly over night in any resting position (+3spd). So I am getting net, +4spd. Could you please tell me what resting position you have observed that slows this watch down the most? Thank you.

Jerry
Jerry
2 years ago
Reply to  MARK WOLFSON

It runs fastest face down. 3 and 6 down slowest, by as much as 25s/d!

Jim Demers
Jim Demers
1 year ago
Reply to  Jerry

Clearly, somebody needs to build a tourbillon diver’s watch.

John T
John T
5 years ago
Reply to  Phil Savory

I have a PolAm shark mesh diver which has the nh35 in it – I adjust mine about a minutes every 10 to 14 days, so I think this movement works well if worn daily like I do

craig watanabe
craig watanabe
1 year ago
Reply to  Phil Savory

It’s now 2022 and we all know how Russian tanks are built. Their turrets blow off like a Jack-in-the-Box. Thankfully Seikos don’t

David
David
1 year ago
Reply to  craig watanabe

LOL! I had the same thought when reading that. Definitely a dated expression.

Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  David

@David: yóu don’t even know this is a watch ! (read!!!) “built like a russian tank £106:00 plus p+p”. If you can’t read …

Vlada
Vlada
6 months ago
Reply to  craig watanabe

this comment didnt aged well, guess russian tanks arnt that bad after all

Mark
Mark
5 months ago
Reply to  Vlada

Sure Vlad. They still blow up, but there aren’t too many anymore…

Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark

This is a watch ! (read!!!) “built like a russian tank £106:00 plus p+p”.
If people can’t read …

Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  Hans Cremers

A russian “tank’ is a watch model of russian brands of watchmakers.

Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  Vlada

This is a watch ! (read!!!) “built like a russian tank £106:00 plus p+p”.
If people can’t read …

Hans Cremers
Hans Cremers
3 months ago
Reply to  craig watanabe

@Craig Watanabe: yóu even don’t know this is a watch ! (read!!!) “built like a russian tank £106:00 plus p+p”. If you can’t read …

yuri
yuri
3 months ago
Reply to  Phil Savory

nowadays “bad” comparison to Russians tanks on battlefields of Ukraine! 🙂 better say built like Leopard I tank!

Steve
Steve
8 years ago

I have a Momentum M30 with the NH35A movement its been back to Momentum twice and it still loses time. About a minute every three days. I have a Deep Blue with the Miyota 9015 movement and it keeps between + or – 5 to 10 seconds a day. I have the Seiko Monster II with the 4r36 and it its within a minute a week.

Berton Kanne
Berton Kanne
7 years ago
Reply to  Steve

My Orient Mako USA, though not hacking with their in house movement, is far more accurate than either of my Invicta watches that have the NH35a. I am sure my are NH35a’s are not made in Japan

Ultrav
Ultrav
2 years ago
Reply to  Berton Kanne

They say the Malaysian ones are as reliable as Japanese ones

Bobby
Bobby
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve

I have a Deep Blue Commander with an NH35. Consistantly +5 sd for a month. Then, no date quick set, no hacking, ran very slow and would stop when held 12 down. So I’m guessing a failure in the keyless works. First watch with an NH35 (the others have NH70s) so I’m wondering, what are the known problems/failures with the 35?

Brian
Brian
8 years ago

MWC Kampfschwimmer Autos also use this movement. Be advised that when MWC needs to top of an order (run out of NH35a’s) they will substitute Sellita SW 200’s. The chances of getting a Sellita is small though.

Ultrav
Ultrav
2 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Is that good or bad?

Edward D.
Edward D.
8 years ago

I bought an Invicta Pro Diver with this movement. It looses 3 seconds each day, pretty precise.

Heff
Heff
8 years ago
Reply to  Edward D.

Same here. What a workhorse. Just wish it were decorated better.

CM
CM
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward D.

Same. -3 spd. From the box. No special treatment. Wear most of all of the time.

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago

I recently got an Invicta Pro diver 8926OB with this movement, and out of the box, started off +15 seconds a day! By the 3rd day was up to +26 seconds in 24hrs. I exchanged it, and out of the box, it started off + 3.5 seconds a day, and after 1 week, it running at +2 seconds a day! You just have to be lucky!

Jeremy
Jeremy
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

There is a very good chance that the first Invicta watch you bought might have been magnetized. It’s always good to purchase a demagnetizer machine off of eBay, they’re like 10 bucks, the little blue machine with the red button they, work great and I use them on all my automatic watches. Unless you own a automatic watch that has a high Gauss rating in the movement.

Wing
Wing
5 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

This is a very helpful tip! Thanks Jeremy.
I am lucky that my DELTAt Umi is only losing 1-2 seconds in 24 hours. But I will look into a demagnetizer just in case.

Cary
Cary
3 years ago
Reply to  Wing

A magnetized watch is going to run worse than +26 seconds a day.

Lee
Lee
3 years ago
Reply to  Cary

It will depend on the degree magnetized

David
David
2 years ago
Reply to  Lee

Once magnetism reaches the point of deforming the balance spring, the impact to timing is rather dramatic. A watch running +26 spd does sound more like normal (acceptable) manufacturing variance. In fact, this is well within the normal accuracy range of many mass-produced movements.

gybognarjr
gybognarjr
8 years ago

I have an Invicta Grand Diver, it is as big and heavy as a wall clock and thick as a Hero sandwich. The NH35A caliber is surprisingly good, looses 3-4 seconds in 24 hours. The watch is a good value at $104.00 and if used in diving, one needs no extra weights to go down.

Ultrav
Ultrav
2 years ago
Reply to  gybognarjr

X ha ha

Seiko Saat
Seiko Saat
8 years ago

Seiko NH35A really good mechanism.

Chris Panabaker
Chris Panabaker
3 months ago
Reply to  Seiko Saat

My experience with 5 x !!!! a NH35(a) is thatb 3 out of these 5 were really stuck and the springs were demolished. This after only 14 monthes (i.e. 1 year 2 months). Unacceptable, I can’t tell you otherwise, sorry though.

rebecca
rebecca
8 years ago

Jiusko watches also feature this movement in a variety of models at affordable cost

graysclassics
graysclassics
8 years ago

Bought an Invicata Diver with this NH35A movement. Gained 5 MINUTES per DAY…. had it regulated, ok for a couple of days, then gained 15 MINUTES a day…. must have been unlucky!

julio
julio
8 years ago
Reply to  graysclassics

These movements are regulated and built by machines so is better to leave them alone because having them regulated by a human being they will never be the same…

Ralph
Ralph
8 years ago
Reply to  julio

How is that a logical comment in any way? If turning a screw put there for the purpose of regulating a watch one way makes the watch run faster or the other way to run slower how does it matter if a machine or a human turns it? It obviously went out of spec. so the screw needs to be turned to compensate….. And the guy said it worked for a bit so that negates your comment entirely. He got unlucky and it happens, even with expensive watches. Simple logic.

Jerry
Jerry
2 years ago
Reply to  Ralph

It’s not just the speed regulator that might be off but the stud carrier (beat error). My Invicta pro diver came running at -8 spd but a beat error of 1.3ms, where below 0.6 is considered acceptable. This is really tricky to regulate because the stud carrier is REALLY sensitive and you don’t know which direction to start with. You just have to use trial and error with a timegrapher or the Watch Accuracy Meter app. If it’s running < +-20spd don’t even bother! You’ll probably just make it worse or destroy the movement. And the NH35A runs fastest face… Read more »

Tim G
Tim G
7 years ago
Reply to  graysclassics

Magnetised maybe?

Manny F.
Manny F.
7 years ago
Reply to  graysclassics

It’s magnetized! That’s what happened to me. Take it to your watchmaker and have him demagnatize it back to normal. Don’t try adjusting the speed until you do this FIRST.

Lee
Lee
3 years ago
Reply to  Manny F.

Buy a demagnetizer on ebay for less than 15.00. Use a compass to determine if your watch is magnetized and also when you have got it demagnetized.

Curious
Curious
8 years ago

I have a MWC kampfschwimmer diver with a 24 jewels and 41h of power reserve. I wondered what the chances are for its movement to be a NH35a. I have this movement in my Seiko and I am very pleased with it. Very accurate and affordable. It is not less accurate than the movement in my Omega, which is far from affordable. Fingers crossed my new MWC diver has an NH35a.

Jay
Jay
8 years ago

This is my daily wear mechanism. Can this movement/caliber be overwound? Can the screwdown threads wear out easily? I regularly use a counter-clockwise winder (every evening) and/or have the habit of unscrewing the crown and making a dozen or more clockwise turns at the normal position. I realize that the watch can hold 3+ days of “charge” at a time, but I’d rather keep it spot on. Any concerns/cautions with my practices?

Mr. Brooks
Mr. Brooks
8 years ago
Reply to  Jay

The NH35A movement cannot be overwound there is a mechanism inside that prevents this. You’ll be fine.

Ralph
Ralph
8 years ago
Reply to  Jay

if it’s your daily wear watch it should already be fully wound if you are even remotely active during the day. You do not need to manually wind the watch at all. Most watches, if the wearer is semi active, can wind fully in 4-8 hours.

Jeremy
Jeremy
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay

All watches that are automatics are different on the winding process. I own some that I only have to wind 15 to 20 times, I have other watches that I have to wind 40 to 50 times, so it honestly is all about leading and figuring out the watch you own. Some watches will tell you in a manual, some don’t have a manual so you can look it up on YouTube sometimes and they could tell you. on my watches that are skeleton dials or if you can see the coil spring , I will actually use a flashlight… Read more »

Lee
Lee
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

I have read that the NH35A requires 55 winds from completely depleted to completely wound.

John Ferguson
John Ferguson
8 years ago

We use a lot of MWC divers watches professional (marine salvage) and of the 20+ we have most of the new ones (last 2 years) are NH35A, before that some were NH35A, some Miyota and some were SW200 but they are using almost all NH35A according to Axel Schmidt who I normally deal with at MWC in Berlin. I think the NH35A seems great with good power reserve and seems to be accurate to a minute a week on average so all good.

Jerry
Jerry
8 years ago

I have worn an invicta 0420 titanium diver with this movement for four years. Its accurate to about three minutes per month. Very nice watch and worth every penny. The crystal is still unscratched except for a near-invisible scratch on the face made when my arm swung against the sharp point of a deck screw in my garage a few years ago, and my watch face hit it a glancing blow.

Laurence
Laurence
8 years ago

I have a new NH35A-based watch and I have been very pleased with the accuracy after 4 weeks of daily wear. Every automatic watch I have ever owned has lost time each day. But this NH35A actually gains time every day and the great news is that the time gained has been no more than 20 seconds per week! My last watch was NH25A-based and it tended to lose about 9 to 10 seconds per day, which is not bad at all for a sub-$100 automatic. I expected my NH35A would be about the same but with hand-winding and hacking.… Read more »

Jeremy
Jeremy
5 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

I will say that I will never buy an Invicta watch as long as I live no matter what movement they put in it for the fact being that I purchased it from a authorized dealer in. January 26th 2018 and wore it one time to the grocery store on February 3rd 2018 for about an hour and the faux hex bolt on the rotating bezel broke and I had to send it in to get repaired. first off, I had to pay $28 dollars to send it in and for the inspection fee, and we are talking about an… Read more »

Matt T
Matt T
4 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

I purchased an Invicta 8926OB over 4 years ago and it’s held up nicely. Still runs 3 to 5 seconds per day slow, which is outstanding. At $83, I consider it a throwaway watch when the day comes that it breaks. I’ll just order a new one.

carlos
carlos
8 years ago

invicta divers con nh35, fantastico calibre de seiko muy preciso +3 seg aproximadamente x dia, con los cambios de temperatura y posiciones varia ya que no es de grado cronometro, pero no es mucha la diferencia de variacion en el frio al dejarlo sobre la mesa a una temperatura de unos 10 grados celsius seran unos 4 a 6 segundos cuando mucho 10 segs. de variacion de adelanto en temperatura de frio, al ponerselo en el brazo nuevamente y traerlo durante el dia variara los segs. normales de adelanto. muy fiable preciso y robusto., suele ir mas preciso que relojes… Read more »

C. Dilg
C. Dilg
8 years ago

I have about a dozen watches with the nh35a, 5 with the 282, 4 with the 200, and 2 with the 7750. There is no comparison with the 7750 but as yet I do not own a 500. I buy only automatics or mechanicals-usually auto’s. I can feel the mechanical friction produced by the nh35 and hear the rotor when working with my hands. I have as yet to break a movement but have cracked several crystals and have pitted one with A/C coil cleaner. The sapphire was pitted so bad I could not read the dial so I took… Read more »

Brandon Blanchard
Brandon Blanchard
6 years ago
Reply to  C. Dilg

Hard on watches? Nah! Last I checked, shooting them from 500ft is the norm!! Lol! Sounds like fun!

Socrates
Socrates
6 years ago
Reply to  C. Dilg

At 500 ft, to hit a watch face, I’d say you also proved you’re a pretty good shot!

Jim Demers
Jim Demers
1 year ago
Reply to  C. Dilg

You’re not going to pit sapphire with any solvent short of hydrofluoric acid. Must have been an acrylic crystal.

Alan
Alan
8 years ago

I have had 2 Invita $90 NH35A Automatic Diver Watches for over 1.5 years now and they have functioned flawlessly. Like a few of the other reviewers I gain approximately 1 minute every 11 days with both of them. That’s not much different in time off as my Hamilton 7750 X-wind. I think, for a wear every day and don’t care what happens to them kind of watch, they are one of the best buys on the market! They really are fairly good looking, are 200m water resistant, have a see through exhibition back and take a pretty good beating… Read more »

dan cotton
dan cotton
7 years ago

I have the mwc vietnam field watch homage,and it’s great No noise,very sure winding mvmt,and accurate.For price it’s amazing,Just feels like class when wearing it.Will look for it in other watches

t-dab
t-dab
7 years ago

The Unimatic Modello Uno features the robust/no nonsense Seiko NH35A. Clean watch, Clean movement.

t-dab
t-dab
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner
Miguel Maldonado
Miguel Maldonado
7 years ago

Helm Watches
Vanuatu wach

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago

going thru this thread i am clicking on some watches with the NH35A that are mentioned…the vanatu is vanacoooL!

Robert Polverari
Robert Polverari
7 years ago

Just got an Invicta divers about 2 weeks ago with the NH35A movement. I am very pleased for 110$ (CAN) that I paid for it. It looks great and as for keeping time, I cannot complain. Must of got lucky because it is at between ± 1-3 seconds per day. Testing it using the computers internal clock. If its based on the 7S26 movement which is found in my Seiko’s diver that I bought in 1996, than I am not going to complain. That watch is 20 years old and keeps better time than my Swiss mechanical movements (±2 spd)… Read more »

Charles S
Charles S
3 years ago

In 1991 I bought a brand new Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust. It is a beautiful piece of jewelry. Time keeping, not so much. It never kept very good time and friends who also own them told me that theirs are similar. I don’t remember exactly but I think it was about 5 minutes per month for a Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified! I wasn’t doing anything that needed real precision like diving or flying a plane, so I resolved to live with it because it being aware of it, I knew to leave early to get to meetings on time. My… Read more »

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Charles S
Charles S
3 years ago
Reply to  Charles S

I bought the Invicta from Costco because it was a limited time offer and it specified the NH35a caliber. I looked on Amazon and was surprised that most of them were quartz movements, either Swiss or Japanese. I went to the Invicta Store also. They had a lot of automatics, but none of the caliber movements were specified. Thanks to everyone on this thread for their honest opinion on this caliber. Now I suppose I have to be lucky.

Joejo
Joejo
3 years ago
Reply to  Charles S

Any pics of the Invicta? I can’t seem to find what I want with a NH35A in it.

Mark Diaz
Mark Diaz
7 years ago

I have this movement in my Invicta 8928A. It runs about a minute fast every three days. Not exactly a precision movement but it is “a workhorse” It has never given me problems except for the unacceptable inaccuracy in time keeping.

Roberto Polverari
Roberto Polverari
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Diaz

Have you tried to adjust the timing yourself? Not very difficult just need to be very patient. When you move the lever to either + or -, use a wooden toothpick clipped at the end. I strongly suggest that you use a magnifying eye piece do you can see the diplacemnt of the lever properly. I adjusted my Seiko 7S36 movement like this. Was running 20 spd too fast when I received it. Got it down to +1-2 spd, until my 2 yr old got a hold of it and decided to test it’s impact resistance on the floor………many times.… Read more »

A. David
A. David
7 years ago

I gasped when I got to the end of your post! I no longer have that age around me but your experience Proves my purchase was well invested. Thanks

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago

a long time ago i too would adjust my seiko diver 7s36 movement with the eyeglass/toothpick method and got it more accurate than my new rolex datejust chronometer at the time. i was again deciding to get another seiko diver classic but couldn’t do it for $250 (japan model) when i got my invicta 9110 diver this week with the nh35 movement for $92. that the nh35 has winding is a huge difference. i know the 200m water resist invictas are not dive certified, but since i don’t dive, the convenience of a windable movement outweighed getting the seiko diver.… Read more »

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago

have done this with classic seiko divers before. after 2 tries with the toothpick you usually have a watch running much more accurate than a new rolex. how do i know? i’ve had several new dealer rolexes that couldn’t compare to an adjusted basic seiko movement. a datejust and a submariner…about 10 years ago. both chronometers. if you don’t have $5000 these days, you can’t go wrong with any of these watches that have the NH35 in them. a company like seiko that makes a great movement, hackable even, and companies that make generally xlnt quality cases such as invicta,… Read more »

Cary
Cary
3 years ago
Reply to  johnnyjohnny

Rolex Datejust is not a chronometer.

Wostepper
Wostepper
3 years ago
Reply to  Cary

Rolex Datejust has the 3135. It is definitely a Chronometer. All Rolex watches today are Chronometers.

Paula
Paula
7 years ago

What does the A mean? Is there a difference between NH35 and NH35A? Is there a NH35B C or D?
Great site!

M Heisey
M Heisey
7 years ago
Reply to  Paula

I assumed the “A” was and indicator for “automatic”

Stephen Barry
Stephen Barry
7 years ago
Reply to  M Heisey

Is there an M for manual wind?

Lee
Lee
3 years ago
Reply to  M Heisey

“A” is the generation series. There is no “B” or “C”. Yet.

A. David Griffin
A. David Griffin
7 years ago

I have learned so much in the last 15 mins reading these posts. I had no idea such knowledge was available, let alone necessary. Could someone possibly inform me to what “hacking” refers to? I have my ideas, but I couldn’t possibly think that people actually ‘hack’ into a nice watch.

Charles
Charles
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

This site is not just useful, it’s amazing! I have been coming here every day since I found it to see movement photos and read the comments here. There’s nothing like it and I know it’s a lot of hard work. You guys are great at creating content that no one else does. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Michael Dandurand
Michael Dandurand
4 years ago

Means the second hand stops when you pull the crown to 2nd click.

Coleman
Coleman
4 years ago

Why do so many guys even care about hacking or not? I’ve read comments of guys going ape shit because a watch being reviewed doesn’t have hacking. For me I couldn’t care less. I never look at the seconds hand of my watches.

Lee
Lee
3 years ago
Reply to  Coleman

You never saw the old WW2 movies where the commander has everyone synchronize their watches just before the big raid? They all had hacking watches so the attacks all happen at the same time. You are the reason they lost the element of surprise and kawaliski and his squad got wiped out!

Leroy Nicewatch
Leroy Nicewatch
7 years ago

Holy shit thank you for this info but wtf is the A for? As in, NH35(A)?

Matt
Matt
7 years ago

Leroy, it stands for Anus.

Brandon Blanchard
Brandon Blanchard
6 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Lmao!! ANUS!! NH35ANUS

A. David
A. David
7 years ago

Just had to announce to those who’d truly appreciate the news: After reading a few threads on this and another site I felt comfortable enough to make my first Invicta Pro Grand Diver 90201 purchase earlier this afternoon. I’ve never purchased a watch of this quality. Thank you for providing such insight and depth – while making it comfortable enough to keep up – a little. It’s obvious I’ve stumbled onto something like enjoying a fine wine…that may cause me to have long conversations with my wife as I learn and want to learn more. Thank you! Yea, I’m excited… Read more »

t-dab
t-dab
7 years ago
Reply to  A. David

Good choice A. David, congrats!

A. David
A. David
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

For sure! With a pic I’m sure

Bert
Bert
5 years ago
Reply to  A. David

Most of the automatic watches that I see and own use this movement. Some have been +/- 2 seconds per day. Its the best automatic for the money, imo.

A. David
A. David
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Unfortunately my watch is running approximately 2mins fast regular. After reviewing this site I believe it needs to de-magnified. The problem is where I live in SC it’s not easily acquired. I still appreciate this site greatly.

A. David
A. David
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

This is great! Thanks. I don’t mind taking the time to “hack” it – makes me pause for a moment and enjoy it more. But as this may become a frequent thing to do as it gets exposed to magnets like grocery store check out counters, I can reallly see the benefit. OAN – I’m still trying to figure out how to post a picture. Too several from different angles (it’s s beautiful piece to me) but still can’t figure it out. Your assistance would again be very appreciated. God’s peace and Journey well!

A. David
A. David
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Hey my friendly caliber guru; I purchased the device you shared with me. I’ve used it according to the instructions offered. “Passing it through the magnetic field back and forth a few times while pressing the button – careful not to hold it for too long. The issue doesn’t seem to be correcting the increased time of roughly 3 minutes a day. I suspect I may not be doing something correctly. Is it a longer period I should expose the watch to the field? Is it important to exposed all sides of the watch, not just the face? (Which I’ve… Read more »

Larry
Larry
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

I think your watch just needs regulated. The demagetizer is a good thing to have either way. Did you use it properly? Place your watch on it, push the button for a few seconds, slowly draw your watch away from it but don’t release the button.

Larry
Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  A. David

Mine lost 0.56 Spd the first month and now runs dead even with my Citizen Navihawk AT. Shouldn’t be possible but I got very lucky

Larry
Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Losing 5 minutes every 30 days now. Not too shabby for $70.00

Rik
Rik
7 years ago

Seiko nh35a
Great movement,,
I saw even Chinese watches use this seiko movement
Seiko selling policy probably…but iT is a pity

Ross W Williams
Ross W Williams
7 years ago

In the article it asked to add companies that use this movement. Android-USA now Aragon watches has been and continues to us the NH35a. They also use its bigger and better brothers in some of their watches. I would look into this company or used or new stock Androids. I have three of them and love them all. The Android Endeavor, Rotator Limited Edition (83/150) in Rose Gold and the regular Silverjet. All of those watches us the same NH35A or NH35. The A does run quite more accurate in my Endeavor vs the Rotator without the A. All of… Read more »

Bert
Bert
7 years ago

I have a Swiss Military Conger. Xlnt in every way except it does not fit me. It is extrememy accurate and its Swiss quartz movement. I have an Android Silverjet AD780 as well. It has a Miyota quartz movement and seems to be bullet proof. I would like to sell the Conger. Its new in box. Contact me if you or someone you know is looking for one and wants to save big.

Mac
Mac
7 years ago

Wow!, your Conger Nero Auto by CX Swiss Military is not a watch; …it’s an amphibian timing tank! Wow!!!
Congrats!
This is a great forum; I’m learning about concrete things and watches I’d never heard before. Great site!

Ross and or ScrapHMS and or FerroChrome99 on other forums.
Ross and or ScrapHMS and or FerroChrome99 on other forums.
6 years ago
Reply to  Mac

To Mac and Bert, thanks for your comments, Bert, I’ll ask around, and Mac I’m posting some pics with this post. I’ve been really busy stalking Land Rover forums since I took over my mom’s old one after I sold 2011 car to save up and pay cash for my new/used F250 big boy toy again. So unfortunately the Rover is taking the expendable income for watch collecting in the 85-150 buck range. I would like to add to the forum in general. Could we please stop adding Invicta’s I know some of you swear by them but to me… Read more »

Ross and or ScrapHMS and or FerroChrome99 on other forums.
Ross and or ScrapHMS and or FerroChrome99 on other forums.
6 years ago
Reply to  Mac

Oh on me. I’m 6’8″ 330 lbs. With a hand span of over 12″ and at least 9.75″ wrist size for watches to feel comfortable. So my ridiculous huge Conger Nero Auto looks normal sized. Similar to a 16 or 24oz aluminum can looks normal in my hand like a 12oz coke can in everyone elses. Too many watches are dainty and womanly with small face sizes.

Tim Mills
Tim Mills
7 years ago

I have recently acquired one of these Lew & Huey Orthos divers with the NH35.
Please take a look at this video from the guy behind the brand and tell me what you think of this instruction for lateral pressure when returning the crown? I’m wondering if it’s a case design problem? Mine is very tricky! thanks.

A. David
A. David
7 years ago

I’ve had the trickiest time posting a photo as promised. Please advise.

Walter Licker
Walter Licker
7 years ago

I have the Invicta 8926OB with NH35A movement. It was running +20 s/d, so as I’m not a diver I decide to improve it’s accuracy. I used a toothpick with jewellers eye glass. It then ran just -2 s/d, so I adjusted it again and now it runs +2 s/d. I leave it at rest at night either crown down or crown up and by the morning it’s back to status quo. Now I am a pensioner time has a different meaning to me and this watch is like having a pet. It needs to be looked after and it… Read more »

Joe
Joe
6 years ago
Reply to  Walter Licker

It took me 2 weeks of trial/error to adjust my Invicta N35A to be +3 sec/day. I sync my watch every morning.

Kelvin
Kelvin
7 years ago

By the way, does this movement have an indirect second hand drive like the miyota 8215 or the direct second hand drive like the ETA 2824-2. This makes a difference because if you swing your hand rigorously while doing a sprint with the miyota 8215 or the 7s26 powered watch, the second hand stops momentarily, not by much, about 0.2 – 0.5 secs but when it stops by 0.5 secs everytime you swing your arm hard, it adds up.

WC Licker
WC Licker
7 years ago

I can’t do anything rigorously at my age I haven’t got the strength to pull a cat off a window sill. Just to you updated, I have been to Spain for ten days. The average temperature was 35 degC and my watch kept perfect time every day. As soon as I returned to the UK, after the first day 22 degC, it was +2sec/day. Weird, I guess I’d better go live in Spain to keep my watch happy. Interesting fact it’s better for a watch to run fast then you will never be late for an appointment. Also it’s easier… Read more »

D Bolton
D Bolton
7 years ago

bought an invicta 8926ob with this movement four months ago – out of the box it was running just over plus one second a day and this has continued – have purposely left it alone completely not even adjusting the date and in exactly 121 days it has gained 129 seconds. crown screws down easily and it is completely waterproof when snorkling in about 15 feet of water – not been diving as yet.

A. David
A. David
7 years ago

Good day, I’ve noticed over the past weeks so my Invicta Grand Pro Diver has gained 2 mins. I,m concerned because it became such an apparent issue so quickly. Please give me some reference, perhaps from previous threads. I will search as well. Also, I still cannot figure out how,to post pics of my watch.

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago
Reply to  A. David

might help to know if this is an old or new watch…what conditions it’s used in. i have a number of nh35 invictas and they start out gaining about a minute a week out of the box but generally settle down a bit. by the way between 8 and 9 seconds gain a day without being adjusted is not a major departure from auto movement performance unless it is a chronometer.

Lars Midthun Portch
Lars Midthun Portch
7 years ago

I have a Seiko SRP659J and a SRP777 (K) “Turtle” with this movement,the NH35A. Both run crazy accurate. However the SRP659 is a J,a domestic and it ran +2 spd out of the box. The SRP777 is a Malaysia made Seiko and it had to go in some adjusting before it became spot on. The winding on the SRP is so smooth,soo smooth…..

Marc
Marc
7 years ago

This is a great thread and site.. I’m expecting delivery of an invicta diver with the NH35a and was intersted in the movement quality. This thread has answered all my questions. Well done all!

Marc
Marc
7 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Will do…

Ian Masterton
Ian Masterton
7 years ago

The latest Gigadet Sea Ground subs have the NH35 fitted. Just for info.

Ross
Ross
6 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Aren’t Vostok completely over priced considering we can find the same movements and much higher quality metals in other brands? What are your thoughts in general guys?

Yankeexpress
Yankeexpress
7 years ago

In addition to the newer Gigandet, the Borealis Sea Hawk, Armida A9 run the NH35. It is basically the same movement as the 6r15 at a much lower price point, giving away only a little power reserve.

Ravi
Ravi
7 years ago

Hello There.

Recently I purchased an Invicta Pro diver 8927 with NH35A.. The movement is with yellow colored rotor.

The thing is its hand windable BUT non hacking!!
I pull out the crown all the way to adjust the time but the second hand keeps on ticking.

How is it possible? Is it observed in all new watches or is it a flaw considering its assembled i Malaysia?

Kelvin
Kelvin
7 years ago
Reply to  Ravi

Hi Ravi,

NH35A is definitely hacking. Unless it is broken , it could be an Citizen 8215 movement.

Ravi
Ravi
7 years ago
Reply to  Kelvin

Hi Kelvin,
Thanks for reply.

The movement is definitely NH35A as per the pics.
Only thing is its not hacking.

Do I need to replace the watch?

It keeps good time though

Marc
Marc
7 years ago
Reply to  Ravi

Hey Ravi
I recently bought a Invicta Mickey Mouse dive watch with the NH35A movt and it is definitely hackable. It’s keeping good time and has only added circa 1 min in a month.

Can anyone suggest/recommend another movt, swiss or Japan that is worthy of adding to a collection.
Thanks.

Marc
Marc
7 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Edit.. *16 secs in a month

mark wolfson
mark wolfson
4 years ago
Reply to  Ravi

I have the same problem, 8926OB. It does not hack and does not self wind. Sent to Invicta repair center twice under warranty. They did not fix it, cannot understand their QC (IWSC). I am sending it back a third time! I believe the crown stem is not connecting to the movement. IWSC told me that they had replaced the parts responsible for the hacking and manual winding, but even this did not work.

Berton Kanne
Berton Kanne
4 years ago
Reply to  mark wolfson

The only NH35A movements that I have had problems with ( I have had dozens of them) were not made in Japan. I would try to have a competent jeweler replace the movement, but only with a Japanese made piece.

keepthetime
Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  Ravi

Hi Ravi, can you post pics of your movement? The older version of your watch was actually fitted with an NH25A which is non-hackable and cannot be hand-wound. You have to be careful because some sellers copy and paste the specs directly from the Invicta site and may list the NH35A even though it has the NH25A. This happens a lot with Vostok watches since the models are the same but with different guts.

Jerico
Jerico
7 years ago
Reply to  KeepTheTime

This is true! It happened to me before when ordering from ********. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread58911.html

Bert
Bert
7 years ago

I have an Invicta Pro Diver 17042, which is very similar to your watch. I’ve owned it for a about four years. It has the NH35A SII movement which hacks perfectly and is about 8 seconds a day fast. If you have your movement repaired, whatever you do, do not send it to Invicta! They cannot be trusted.

keepthetime
Admin
7 years ago

Seiko caliber NH35A in a Haigh & Hastings Classic

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Watch_watch
Watch_watch
2 years ago
Reply to  calibercorner

Exactly what I was looking for thanks!

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago

wow…this website is the darnedest best…i love your NH25 vs. 35 comparison that answered the question of why one member’s NH did not hack. one of the best watch websites i’ve encountered…thank you guys!

johnnyjohnny
johnnyjohnny
7 years ago

will do!

Jonathan Ferrer
Jonathan Ferrer
7 years ago

Brew Watch Co. also using the NH35A movement

Winnie
Winnie
7 years ago

I see this is a community of experts: please HELP. I have recently broken the (mineral) glass of my https://www.invictawatch.com/watches/detail/3049-invicta-pro-diver-men-47mm-stainless-steel-gold-stainless-steel-blue-dial-nh35a-automatic . I wish to replace now the glass with sapphire (I don’t care for the extra cost, as it is a memory). Any idea if this is possible and where to go ask for the sapphire glass ? I hope some guru will read this..

Bert
Bert
7 years ago
Reply to  Winnie

If you can precisely measure the broken crystal, I would contact Otto Frei in Oakland, CA. I went there recently for a leather watch strap and clasp. They are amazing. They primarily sell to people in the watch repair business, I believe.

A. David
A. David
7 years ago

Sir.,
Unfortunately a luminous hour display became unhinged. After trying to get repairmen @ the 60 mile radius to repair it with no success – in addition to Invicta’s poor service reputation – I’m considering procurring a repair station for my Invicta Grand Pro Diver.
I would appreciate any counsel (pro/con) you might share with me. The Demagnatizer worked well, but I seemed to need to use it daily as it would continue to gain time, just slower than prior to using it. Thank you & MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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