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C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Hi, guys.

I've been lurking around for a few years now.

Mostly looking for information about the movements -- e.g., where they came from, are they considered reliable, and generally what stuff like "true GMT" means.

I've got a question -- why doesn't CC include information about timelines of the movements? Like, I am interested to know how old a movement is, which movement was made first, which one is the oldest, are they still in production, would I still be able to find parts for it (i.e., should I replace a part/whole movement/machine my own parts), is it difficult to find case/hands/dial for it, and stuff.

i.e., Is CC just meant to be just information, or technically useful for watch repair/making/assembly? Or do we go to the forum for such details?

OK maybe more than one question -- is anything being done about organizing all the information by putting relevant information like manufacturer/ caliber/ type/ bph/ functions(GMT/subdial GMT + position of subdial)/ etc into an SQL so that it can be indexed and filtered and then displayed in a table for comparison? That would be way easier than combing through each page for information (which seems to be sometimes present sometimes not and somewhat disorganized). Also, it becomes easier to see if some information is missing about a caliber because it was overlooked, rather than simply n/a (not available). And probably other advantages. The formatting gives me a headache, because the current disorder triggers me and I try to ignore it. Sometimes I find myself giving up and looking for the manufacturer site for information. Something like this maybe --> <a href=" removed link ">TMI MOVEMENT | DOWNLOADS.

CC is still one of the better sites, mind you -- some of the others give me a worse headache. At least CC is partway there.

 
C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Currently making use of AliX search function to find watch movements with the functions in my wishlist. hahaha

 
admin
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2 weeks ago
 

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Glad the site isn't giving you too much of a headache, but if it ever does, then be sure to quickly close the window 😉

Disorganized is a strong word lol. A lot of the information you mentioned is included when it is known and confirmed. Confirmed is the key. Sure, you might like the looks of having that information presented indiscriminately, but what good is it if it's not accurate? There are thousands of movements and manufacturers are not always forthcoming with historical and technical details. When pertinent information such as the date of introduction is known and confirmed, it is listed. No caliber page is ever complete and new information is constantly being added or updated - as well as more information being added by users in the comments.

Posted by: C2C

Is CC just meant to be just information, or technically useful for watch repair/making/assembly?

All of the above, but with regards to the availability of parts and movements, that is very fluid, and with such sporadic availability, there are often multiple outlets to source from, etc. It's easier to find the movement you want based size and features, then source parts from there.

As far as introduction date of a movement and which one was first, most folks don't use that to determine using a movement or not, especially since we're usually talking about the same general time-frame within 1-2 decades and not centuries. For example, the Miyota 8215 was introduced in the 70s, but you can have one in a few days with all the necessary parts. Then, at the same time, a Seiko movement may have only been around a few years before being discontinued. You may be able to buy 10 NOS movements today and have trouble finding more of them tomorrow. And while many are mainly interested in the tried and true Miyotas and Seikos, which are accessible and easy to find parts for, there are also movement makers that stop production entirely without ever being able to find replacements or parts (ISA for example), and company's like Seagull which is almost impossible lol. The point is, it's less about the information and more that it just depends on the movement and the manufacturer.

The site is ever-evolving and I am constantly striving to make it better. A new version with more search tools is actually currently in the works.

In the meantime, the main search function has been greatly improved upon, as well as a way to search through the comments. Most users find the caliber listing first, then ask additional questions in the comments section - as well as finding that they can make use of the forum if the other options have been exhausted.

It would be helpful to know what exactly are you doing or trying to do? What are you looking for? Share more information and maybe it will help with prioritizing updates.

 
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2 weeks ago
 

Posted by: C2C

Currently making use of AliX search function to find watch movements with the functions in my wishlist. hahaha

Wow, talk about a headache! 😭 🤣 🤣 

 

 
C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Posted by: calibercorner

Posted by: C2C

Currently making use of AliX search function to find watch movements with the functions in my wishlist. hahaha

Wow, talk about a headache! 😭 🤣 🤣 

 

 

Ahahahaha Riiiiight?

 

 
C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Posted by: calibercorner

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It would be helpful to know what exactly are you doing or trying to do? What are you looking for? Share more information and maybe it will help with prioritizing updates.

Ahahahaha Yes, I'm confused enough I quit sometimes when it gets too much for me.

I feel like assembling my own worldtimer from parts. I found a watch from an unknown (to me) company -- see attached -- while searching for parts to make my own version of Omega's Aqua Terra Worldtimer. I don't want it exactly the same (there are things I don't like about it) and sort of tripped over the thing. I guess it is somewhere in a parallel direction to what I want, so I have been looking for first, a movement that fits my needs. Probably going to be a 28800 bph GMT of some sort, but I want to browse and compare the features before I choose basically the most important part.

In case anyone is wondering, the watch reads 10:10 -- it's a 12H watch, I want a 24H one. 

 

 
C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Yeahhhhh At this stage I am thinking maybe I need custom made parts.

 
admin
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2 weeks ago
 

The watch you showed is a CIGA Design Blue Planet (Gilded version). They refer to the movement as a CIGA Design self- design movement and don't disclose what the base caliber is, but it appears to be using a Sea-Gull ST2130 (ETA 2824-2 clone), with a module to achieve the disc style time display with custom gearing. Hope this helps.

 
C2C
 C2C
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Topic Starter 2 weeks ago
 

Posted by: calibercorner

The watch you showed is a CIGA Design Blue Planet (Gilded version). They refer to the movement as a CIGA Design self- design movement and don't disclose what the base caliber is, but it appears to be using a Sea-Gull ST2130 (ETA 2824-2 clone), with a module to achieve the disc style time display with custom gearing. Hope this helps.

OK I should probably start a new thread with clearer statements of my goals for my build.

 

 
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2 weeks ago
 

New thread is here

 
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