Soprod Caliber C125 Gmt

Soprod Caliber C125

Soprod Caliber C125

Brand Soprod
Caliber Number C125
Base Caliber
Soprod A10-2/M100
Movement Type Automatic, self-winding mechanical
Lignes 11.5”’
Diameter
25.60mm
Height 4.10mm
Jewels
25
Power Reserve ~42 hours
Vibrations Per Hour 28,800 bph, 4Hz
Anti-Shock System Incabloc
Winding Direction Bidirectional
Hand-Winding?
Yes
Features Central hours; central minutes; central sweeping seconds; independent central GMT hand; date
Hacking Seconds? Yes
Country of Manufacture Switzerland, Swiss made
Known Models Oak and Oscar Sandford, Hager GMT Traveler, Mercer Goods Nomad GMT, Serica 8315 GMT Chronometre, Zodiac Sea Wolf GMT World Time Automatic (Add your watch to the comments below…)

The Soprod caliber C125 automatic GMT movement. It is Swiss made with 25 jewels and a run time of about 42 hours on a full wind. This caliber is based on the Soprod A10-2 (now known as the M100), with a GMT module. Soprod is a division of the Festina group.

Caliber Commentary:

According to John who submitted this movement, he says:

Difficult to find a lot of information on it. Oak & Oscar claims to be the sole user of the movement, and it could very well be true.

He also mentioned that the caliber C125 may have been based on the Soprod C105 or developed with Seiko 4L. If you have more information on this, please let the community know below.

When asked about the quality of this movement for daily wear, mrvarmint on Reddit says this:

Roughly equivalent to ETA 2893-2, exact same size, so it will be the ebauche found in a lot of formerly-ETA-supplied budget GMTs. Has a few extra jewels, not sure where though.

Function, fortunately or unfortunately, is the same as ETA 2893-2 with quick-set 24H hand rather than quick-set local time (as on a “true” GMT), because the GMT module is built on what would be the day module.

No complaints of Soprod, some anecdotal advantages in the manual winding works, biggest concern is that they’re relatively untested, but I wouldn’t be opposed to buying one for myself

Gallery:

The C125 example pictured above and below is from an Oak and Oscar Sandford watch.

Soprod Caliber C125 Oak Oscar

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Barney
Barney
6 years ago

I’ve been waiting for someone to post a Soprod movement. I just learned about them recently but there isn’t a lot of information on the Net. Is this based on an ETA movement? What would be a better alternative to ETA, a Soprod like this or the Selitta?

John Massi
John Massi
6 years ago
Reply to  Barney

Selitta is a direct replacement / clone of ETA. The reason – from what I’ve gathered – is that ETA will limit sales to Swiss companies only.

Oak & Oscar never intended their watches to be “affordable” and chose to pursue a certain level and style for the watches. According to this page, Soprod will build movements to order (http://soprod.com/recherche-developpement/) so the C125 may literally have been built for O&O and then released to other companies later.

Here: Here: http://www.europastar.com/watch-knowledge/1004087450-mechanical-who-will-succeed-eta.html kind of infers that a basic A10 or C125 is on par with high end ETAs.

John Massi
John Massi
6 years ago
Reply to  Barney

Ah, here is the review that mentions the C125 is exclusive to Oak & Oscar.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/oak-and-oscar-sandford-gmt

Pete Mora
Pete Mora
5 years ago
Reply to  John Massi

Another horseshit Hodinkee article. This caliber is not exclusive to Oak & Oscar by any means. https://www.hagerwatches.com/gmt-specs/

Mark K.
Mark K.
5 years ago
Reply to  Pete Mora

And I’ve been loving my Hager GMT “Stormtrooper.” It’s my main go-to watch for daily wear and traveling. The thing keeps amazing time.

Vern
Vern
3 years ago
Reply to  Pete Mora

oak & oscar is definitely overpriced!

John Massi
John Massi
2 years ago
Reply to  Pete Mora

It was at the time, you ding dong.

glen kaiser
glen kaiser
1 year ago
Reply to  John Massi

Aragon is now offering the C125 in their Hercules line of dive watches.

Steven F.
Steven F.
3 years ago
Reply to  Barney

Sellita

Mazh
Mazh
6 years ago

I like the start cutouts in the oscillator.

Jack
Jack
6 years ago

Hager Watches say they use the SOPROD C125 Automatic movement in their GMT watch. Here is the link:

Francis Jacquerye
Francis Jacquerye
5 years ago

The base movement is the Soprod M100 (formerly A10) with a 0.5 mm thick dual-time module added on top, raising the stem height from 1.5 mm to 2.0 mm and the movement thickness from 3.6 mm to 4.1 mm.

The C125 has been showcased by Soprod as early as 2013. Oak & Oscar was established in 2015, at least two years after Soprod was advertising this movement.

Bryan
Bryan
4 years ago

The Oak & Oscar Sandford appears to be discontinued, but Hager now uses the C125 in their GMT Traveler.

Christian Champion
Christian Champion
4 years ago

Ocean Crawler Watches is releasing a Core GMT “True Diver” Bezel model on December 17th. Limited to only 200 units. It uses the latest SORPOD C125, 60 ATM, Helium release valve and more.

jasoB
jasoB
4 years ago

The brand Ocean Crawler uses this movement too. Mine has been reliable.

D
D
4 years ago

As others have noted, from the A10 calibre, which is based on the Seiko 4L25 movement, design licensed to Soprod.

Paul
Paul
4 years ago

Grovana’s Revue Thommen GMT is using this movement. Most of the advertising for the watch still lists ETA 2893-2 as the movement. A look through the case back shows the 25 jewel movement. The ETA 2893 is 21 jewels. The Soprod A10 is also being offered in some Steinhart watches such as the Ocean One Premium 500 titanium since ETA is selling only to the Swatch group.

MICHAEL M FROST
MICHAEL M FROST
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul

I bought one recently. I love the watch overall. The finish,feel and detail is very nice on R-T.Just right for me. I had trouble at first. The GMT was dropping 2 hours per day. Time gaining 6 seconds per say (not bad). I sent it back to the jeweler. They swapped in another movement.It’s perfect now. Loses one second per day. Outperforms my Chrono,GMT, ETA-Valjoux 7754. Is the M100 equal or less than the selitta SW300-1?

MICHAEL M FROST
MICHAEL M FROST
3 years ago

M100 1901 GMT

Henry
Henry
3 years ago

It’s possible my JS Watch Co. 101 has a Soprod C125 … JS Watch reports that it is either an “ETA or a Soprod” and it is definitely not an ETA. It may be an different Soprod model, however.

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Jim
Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Henry

The tsao Baltimore watch uses this movement in their Legacy GMT

M. S.
M. S.
3 years ago

Baltic states they’re going to be using these in their soon-to-be-released GMT’s. 11/2020.

Juan Manuel
Juan Manuel
2 years ago
Reply to  M. S.

Right, they’re using it in their Baltic Aquascaphe GMT

Peter
Peter
3 years ago

Had no idea Soprod is owned by Festina until I read this post.

Terrance B.
Terrance B.
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter

Same!

Odai Abaisat
Odai Abaisat
3 years ago

Not only Hager and oak&oskar now Baltic aquascaphe gmt uses this movement too

Simon
Simon
3 years ago

This movement is in the new Zodiac Super Sea Wolf GMT.

Glenn
Glenn
2 years ago

Lorien uses a Soprod GMT in their new Hyperion.

Daniel Boisvert
Daniel Boisvert
2 years ago

Baltic Aquascaphe GMT also uses that movement.

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Mike
Mike
2 years ago

Archimede, a small watchmaker in Germany, uses this movement in their Pilot 42 GMT models.

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Bliv AK
Bliv AK
1 year ago

Movement now used in the Bavati Geograaf GMT

George
George
1 year ago

echo/neutra uses this movement on their new Cortina 1956 | GMT

HB
HB
1 year ago

Baltic is using the SOPROD C125 GMT in their GMT watches .

Horacio
Horacio
1 year ago

MAEN is using the C-125 on its Hudson 38 GMT.
I DO NOT have this watch, but am planning to grab one.

Jake Elliot
Jake Elliot
1 year ago

This Soprod C125 is a great replacement for my Maen 200M diver’s original caliber.

I just put in its successor and again it’s +1sec./day. handcalibrated, like it was last time, when I bought it.

Jake Elliott
Jake Elliott
1 year ago
Reply to  Jake Elliot

I’m a great supporter of leaving my watches with their original calibers, replacing exactly the same calibers with originals when it’s time and totally worn out.

Jean du Moulin
Jean du Moulin
1 year ago

Just completed the today’s Calibercorner-Poll and have voted for “I actually like it, the rotor’s noise on my watches.”

Eric
Eric
1 year ago

I am looking for the Lift Angle of this movement.
I own a Zodiac Super Seawolf GMT with this Soprod C125.

Terrance B.
Terrance B.
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric

If it’s based off the ETA 2893-2 you could try 51. https://calibercorner.com/eta-caliber-2893-2/

Mark Hammerschmidt
Mark Hammerschmidt
1 year ago

Is it just me or does this movement look near identical to the new LJP100 from La Joux Perret, which is itself derived from the Miyota 9015 (Citizen owning both LJP and Miyota).

Mark Hammerschmidt
Mark Hammerschmidt
1 year ago

Having looked into this more I realise this is already known.

Ben
Ben
1 year ago

Vasco Watch use this movement for the automatic collection 🙂

Gerard
Gerard
1 year ago

Baltic’s new AQUASCAPHE GMT is also using this movement.

David H
David H
1 year ago

Aragon Watch used this movement on their Hercules GMT. I have been using this watch / caliber for several months we with zero problems. Seems very robust, smooth winding. Easy to learn and use GMT function.

Simon Bailey
Simon Bailey
9 months ago

Now in the Venenzianico Nereide GMT. Looks quite nice actually.

jules
jules
9 months ago

As another poster indicated, the movement is also found in revue thommen heritage gmt. Have been observing for a few months now and no issues. +7 spd at full wind out of the box with no further regulation (yet), + 9 spd at half wind.

David H
David H
8 months ago

I own an Aragon GMT watch with this Soprod C125 movement,in a 200 m wr dive watch. It is a smooth winding and quiet running, solid, accurate, pretty and reliable 25 jewel caliber. Overall I have no reservations in recommending it.

George Buck
George Buck
7 months ago

Batavia Watch company used this movement. geograaf model.

Robert Razavi
Robert Razavi
5 months ago
Paul
Paul
4 months ago

More known models: Zodiac Super Seawolf GMT

Magistercylindrus
Magistercylindrus
3 months ago

Echo Neutra Cortina 1956 GMT also mounts the very same movememt.

Norwin
Norwin
3 months ago

Charlie En Paris is using this movement in there chronograph

Peter
Peter
2 months ago

Does zodiac use this on their gmt?

LukerS
Member
2 months ago

I have the Zodiac ZO3557 Super Sea Wolf LHD Pro-Diver GMT. It stops periodically. Does anyone know what could be causing this? Is it possible that it needs to be demagnetized?

LukerS
Member
2 months ago

How does one obtain a replacement C125 for Super Sea Wolf Pro-Diver GMT?

cjc1103
Member
1 month ago

This movement is used in the Zenith Aquascaphe GMT watch.

Glen Danford
Glen Danford
1 month ago

The Aragon Hercules Soprod GMT uses the C125, and you can get one for $410 with a white dial or $430 with a very nice MOP dial
code M125 or M100 takes $240 off the price

Bill Sanders
Bill Sanders
22 days ago

The Soprod Caliber C125 is also used in the Baltic Aquascaphe GMT.

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