Ingersoll Caliber 419 Automatic Watch Movement

Ingersoll Caliber 419

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Ingersoll Caliber 419 Automatic Watch Movement

Brand Ingersoll
Caliber Number 419
Movement Type Automatic
Jewels 20
Power Reserve Unknown (comment below)
Vibrations Per Hour 21,600 bph
Hacking No
Features Hours, minutes, central seconds
Country of Manufacture China
Known Models IN4105

Ingersoll automatic caliber IN 419. This movement was found in an Ingersoll Bison No. 38 model. Chinese-made with 20 jewels. Ingersoll claims this movement should stay accurate between -30 tp +30 seconds per day when worn under normal conditions.

 

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J
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J

This si actually a hangzhou 2196 caliber

Val
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Val

This page and Ingersoll says it’s the Ingersoll 419 caliber. Maybe it’s a HZ 2196 base movement, but if Hangzhou made it for Ingersoll then they shouldn’t try to claim the credit. That’s going to be the problem with Chinese watch manufacturers, they are suddenly going to start trying to take all the credit away from everyone who has hired them to manufacturer stuff, then they are going to try to build up their own brands.

Anthony Moser
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Anthony Moser

Ingersoll doesn’t design or manufacture watch movements. All they do is take existing Chinese calibers and add their branding. Occasionally, they also get the manufacturer to add some additional finishing or decoration. Then Ingersoll merely assigns these movements an “Ingersoll Caliber” number/designation. Invicta may use a semi-custom rotor on the Seiko/TMI NH35A movements they use in many of their automatic watches, but they don’t try to claim that they are “Invicta calibers”.

Anthony Moser
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Anthony Moser

This is actually the Hangzhou HZ2189 (Base Caliber). The only change is the addition of “Bison N° 38”, badly printed on the rotor.

The Hangzhou HZ2196 is not engraved, and has three eyes for Date, Day and 24-Hours.

All Hangzhou 2xxx series movements were derived from the Seiko 7009A.

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